So just how hard do you think it would be?
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So just how hard do you think it would be?
Plane Crazy are offering this code 3
So i had a look around t'internet and found that its this conversion http://www.dp9.com/fusion/KitPages/4801.htm with a build review here http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/wolf-in-sheeps-clothing-modelling-captured-db605-powered-spitfire.html
Now i am not one to deny a bloke a chance to make a living but how hard would it be if you were to buy a mark Vb spitfire model an BF109G model and splice the two together...?
*Sits back and waits for Mr Whif*
So i had a look around t'internet and found that its this conversion http://www.dp9.com/fusion/KitPages/4801.htm with a build review here http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/wolf-in-sheeps-clothing-modelling-captured-db605-powered-spitfire.html
Now i am not one to deny a bloke a chance to make a living but how hard would it be if you were to buy a mark Vb spitfire model an BF109G model and splice the two together...?
*Sits back and waits for Mr Whif*
Vlad the Inhaler- Posts : 69
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
is it just not the nose off a BF109?
if it is - it will be easy (mind you i think most things are easy arpat from a certain resin T5 lightning conversion I did earlier this year in 32nd scale!)
if it is - it will be easy (mind you i think most things are easy arpat from a certain resin T5 lightning conversion I did earlier this year in 32nd scale!)
jamesv9820- Moderator
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
Doesn't look much in it at all to be perfectly honest, and the price seems to be in line with other resin sets of the same detail, how much are you for a 1/48 Me109 on it's own?
At least this resin set is engineered around the Tamiya Spit which should at least guarantee some level of correct fitment.
At least this resin set is engineered around the Tamiya Spit which should at least guarantee some level of correct fitment.
scotthldr- Posts : 166
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
I have one of thes that i got of ebay for about 9 quid and planned on doing as the Jap version but i don't know if i want to cut the nose off.
I might see if i can get a spit and a BF109 in 1/72 to try it out and see how it goes before i cut up the other one.
Looking at the build review its not a simple cut straight through the fuselage but forwards along the wings too [/img]http://spitfiresite.com/uploaded_images/db605_3.jpg[/img]
I think getting a clean cut will be difficult, any ideas on the best way to cut a decent straight line?
I might see if i can get a spit and a BF109 in 1/72 to try it out and see how it goes before i cut up the other one.
Looking at the build review its not a simple cut straight through the fuselage but forwards along the wings too [/img]http://spitfiresite.com/uploaded_images/db605_3.jpg[/img]
I think getting a clean cut will be difficult, any ideas on the best way to cut a decent straight line?
Vlad the Inhaler- Posts : 69
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
Vlad the Inhaler wrote:
*Sits back and waits for Mr Whif*
Repyling not as Mr Whif, (as this aircraft did exist), but I will reply as Mr Diecast...
If it were up to me I`d kitbash the plastic to create this, but this is 1/72 Diecast, (not 1/48 as in the links), and marketed to collectors who have no wish to make/convert models, just buy and display them. Add to the fact that only, IIRC, 25 are being made, this makes it a rare bit of `metal` and a great investment for the future. For this reason alone Tiger Hobbies can ask for that price because I can tell you now, they will all sell.
tc2324- Posts : 55
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
tc2324 wrote:Vlad the Inhaler wrote:
*Sits back and waits for Mr Whif*
Repyling not as Mr Whif, (as this aircraft did exist), but I will reply as Mr Diecast...
If it were up to me I`d kitbash the plastic to create this, but this is 1/72 Diecast, (not 1/48 as in the links), and marketed to collectors who have no wish to make/convert models, just buy and display them. Add to the fact that only, IIRC, 25 are being made, this makes it a rare bit of `metal` and a great investment for the future. For this reason alone Tiger Hobbies can ask for that price because I can tell you now, they will all sell.
Diecast, 1/72 and Tiger Hobbies??
I'm I missing something here as the OP initial question was about the Fusion 1/48 resin conversion?
Vlad, I can guarantee that a quick cut and shut between the Spit fuselage and Me 109 nose will not work easily and will require a large amount of filler and sanding to get the contours right if they will ever look right. The master caster of the Fusion set has already done this for you to make things easier.
From the build review it looks as simple a conversion as you'll find, with two cuts to be made on each fuselage half(one vertical and one horizontally) Getting a straight cut won't be a problem if you use the correct tools and for this I recommend the Zona 500 fine razor saw, which has a hard back and doesn't flex like the Tamiya razor saw.
http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Zona-500-Fine-Kerf-Razor-Saw-86-0940
scotthldr- Posts : 166
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
scotthldr wrote:tc2324 wrote:Vlad the Inhaler wrote:
*Sits back and waits for Mr Whif*
Repyling not as Mr Whif, (as this aircraft did exist), but I will reply as Mr Diecast...
If it were up to me I`d kitbash the plastic to create this, but this is 1/72 Diecast, (not 1/48 as in the links), and marketed to collectors who have no wish to make/convert models, just buy and display them. Add to the fact that only, IIRC, 25 are being made, this makes it a rare bit of `metal` and a great investment for the future. For this reason alone Tiger Hobbies can ask for that price because I can tell you now, they will all sell.
Diecast, 1/72 and Tiger Hobbies??
I'm I missing something here as the OP initial question was about the Fusion 1/48 resin conversion?
Vlad, I can guarantee that a quick cut and shut between the Spit fuselage and Me 109 nose will not work easily and will require a large amount of filler and sanding to get the contours right if they will ever look right. The master caster of the Fusion set has already done this for you to make things easier.
From the build review it looks as simple a conversion as you'll find, with two cuts to be made on each fuselage half(one vertical and one horizontally) Getting a straight cut won't be a problem if you use the correct tools and for this I recommend the Zona 500 fine razor saw, which has a hard back and doesn't flex like the Tamiya razor saw.
http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Zona-500-Fine-Kerf-Razor-Saw-86-0940
Sorry Scott, my bad, it is Plane Crazy and not Mr Tiger, (they both do code 3 Corgi`s, Hobbymaster, etc), but the Spit is metal and will be in 1/72.
More info here.....
http://forums.diecast-aviation.eu/showthread.php?t=19126
tc2324- Posts : 55
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
scotthldr wrote:tc2324 wrote:Vlad the Inhaler wrote:
*Sits back and waits for Mr Whif*
Repyling not as Mr Whif, (as this aircraft did exist), but I will reply as Mr Diecast...
If it were up to me I`d kitbash the plastic to create this, but this is 1/72 Diecast, (not 1/48 as in the links), and marketed to collectors who have no wish to make/convert models, just buy and display them. Add to the fact that only, IIRC, 25 are being made, this makes it a rare bit of `metal` and a great investment for the future. For this reason alone Tiger Hobbies can ask for that price because I can tell you now, they will all sell.
Diecast, 1/72 and Tiger Hobbies??
I'm I missing something here as the OP initial question was about the Fusion 1/48 resin conversion?
Vlad, I can guarantee that a quick cut and shut between the Spit fuselage and Me 109 nose will not work easily and will require a large amount of filler and sanding to get the contours right if they will ever look right. The master caster of the Fusion set has already done this for you to make things easier.
From the build review it looks as simple a conversion as you'll find, with two cuts to be made on each fuselage half(one vertical and one horizontally) Getting a straight cut won't be a problem if you use the correct tools and for this I recommend the Zona 500 fine razor saw, which has a hard back and doesn't flex like the Tamiya razor saw.
http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Zona-500-Fine-Kerf-Razor-Saw-86-0940
Perhaps I didn't explain that i had originaly seen the diecast model available as a limited edition elsewhere. When i looked into the conversion i thought that was how it was going to be done, in plastic and not in diecast. If its realy going to be done in diecast then it sounds like a lot of work for the man doing the conversion and i really wouldn't blame him for wanting to be paid a fair price for his work.
Being a bit of a cheapskate i am looking at having a go at this in plastic, not thinking for a moment that the results would be as good as the code 3 on offer from planecrazy.
Thats a good link for the saw,I didnt know tamiya did one either but suspect that Mr whif tc2324 already has a few..
Vlad the Inhaler- Posts : 69
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
This thread has got confusing?
From the above links posted, Fusion Models do the Daimler Benz engine conversion in resin for the plastic Tamiya Spitfire V in 1/48.
http://www.dp9.com/fusion/KitPages/4801.htm
http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/wolf-in-sheeps-clothing-modelling-captured-db605-powered-spitfire.html
and
Code 3 do the exact same aircraft in 1/72 and diecast form(scroll down)
http://www.planecrazy.biz/info/news.php
Hope that clarifies the matter.
From the above links posted, Fusion Models do the Daimler Benz engine conversion in resin for the plastic Tamiya Spitfire V in 1/48.
http://www.dp9.com/fusion/KitPages/4801.htm
http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/wolf-in-sheeps-clothing-modelling-captured-db605-powered-spitfire.html
and
Code 3 do the exact same aircraft in 1/72 and diecast form(scroll down)
http://www.planecrazy.biz/info/news.php
Hope that clarifies the matter.
scotthldr- Posts : 166
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
You've lost me!
Mind you getting me confused does not take much!
Mind you getting me confused does not take much!
jamesv9820- Moderator
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
Its my fault - i honestly didn't think it was being offered in Diecast, nothing in the post said it was other than the implication that planecrazy do diecast code 3's and it was posted on a diecast forum. After finding the resin conversion i assumed thats how it was being done.Good job not everyone is a lazy as me then!
Anyway - who fancies making one....?
Anyway - who fancies making one....?
Vlad the Inhaler- Posts : 69
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
Not really my bag to be honest Vlad - it has got no Jet engine!!!
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
Vlad the Inhaler wrote: Anyway - who fancies making one....?
Since you started the topic, I think that honor should fall to you
scotthldr- Posts : 166
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
scotthldr wrote:This thread has got confusing?
From the above links posted, Fusion Models do the Daimler Benz engine conversion in resin for the plastic Tamiya Spitfire V in 1/48.
http://www.dp9.com/fusion/KitPages/4801.htm
http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/wolf-in-sheeps-clothing-modelling-captured-db605-powered-spitfire.html
and
Code 3 do the exact same aircraft in 1/72 and diecast form(scroll down)
http://www.planecrazy.biz/info/news.php
Hope that clarifies the matter.
Just to chip in again and point out that in this case the term `Code 3` just means that an existing diecast model release has been changed by an individual either by adding on something or changing the markings.
IIRC I do think that there is a company called Code 3, but they have nothing to do with Plane Crazy
(Apologies if thats already now become obvious)
Picture below is an example of a Code 3 I did, all be it rather badly.
At the back is the 74 Sqn Spitfire that Corgi released back in 2000 and in front is another of the same model after I had removed the decals, applied early war 74 Sqn markings and then just touched up the paint work.
Vlad, I think it would be a great project if you choose to do it.
tc2324- Posts : 55
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
Right then, i think that i'd like to have a go at this on with a couple of 1/72 models and kitbash them as TC2324 calls it and if i feel comfortable after all that i'll see about ordering the resin kit and start looking for a spit donor kit *dashes off to ebay*
Vlad the Inhaler- Posts : 69
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
I think you'd be better just going for the Fusion conversion and Tamiya kit from the outset. They are both engineered for one another and will probably be a lot less hassle(more expensive though) than kit bashing two kits together.
Look forward to seeing what happens either way.
Look forward to seeing what happens either way.
scotthldr- Posts : 166
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
scotthldr wrote:I think you'd be better just going for the Fusion conversion and Tamiya kit from the outset. They are both engineered for one another and will probably be a lot less hassle(more expensive though) than kit bashing two kits together.
Look forward to seeing what happens either way.
I don't doubt your right scott but i am at that stage in my life where i want to have a go at things - as silly as that sounds - but i will draw the line at morris dancing.... Here is another link to this build i have found while researching it http://hsfeatures.com/messerspitrj_1.htm
I am looking at the 1/72 models on ebay and i think the 109F has the nearest clean shape to the conversion . It says in the link that the original aircraft used a cowling from an Me110 engine. If i am happy with my plastic butchery i may think about replicating things on a couple of cheap diecasts i have knocking around but thats well into the future. I have an airfix dogfight double kit on the watch list along with a couple of other likely candidates .
Vlad the Inhaler- Posts : 69
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Re: So just how hard do you think it would be?
My 99p 1/72 BF109G front end donor arrived today. I had almost forgotten how small these things are..... Hopefully the Spit will turn up next week
Vlad the Inhaler- Posts : 69
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Spit has turned up, hopefully i will have time at the weekend to get the two fuselages together and decide on the surgery. I can't help thinking that as its 1/72 anything i use to do the cutting will be taking a large chunk out of the plastic just by cutting alone and that will have to be taken into account.
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